tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post256903057740225030..comments2024-03-25T18:27:37.374+00:00Comments on The Kissed Mouth: Pre-Raphaelites: Victorian Avant-GardeKirsty Stonell Walkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-57710581364490284702012-11-26T16:33:32.918+00:002012-11-26T16:33:32.918+00:00I think they could have gotten away with just doin...I think they could have gotten away with just doing a 'Pre-Raphaelites are pretty!' exhibition, without having to justify it because most of the reviews in the paper I read were disgruntled journos grumping about being lied to - 'This isn't modern art! They lied! Curse them!'<br /><br />Honestly, we'd love it whatever nonsense they needed to hang on it. Just the chance to see that much gorgeousness in one room, it's such a pleasure! :)Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-45931605547015180682012-11-26T13:35:19.043+00:002012-11-26T13:35:19.043+00:00Just to add that we were really flagging after 3 h...Just to add that we were really flagging after 3 hours and only 2/3 of the exhibition "done" so we came back the next day to finish off - can't normally do that but one of the benefits of being a member at the Tate!WoofWoofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14142792485921452481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-9806512700128258592012-11-26T13:30:26.084+00:002012-11-26T13:30:26.084+00:00Visited the exhibition this weekend. I also agree ...Visited the exhibition this weekend. I also agree with your comments that the organisers did not really prove their point about the PRB being avant-garde and a forerunner of the impressionists / modernists etc. Still, it was truly wonderful to see so many of our favourites in one place. I must have stood in front of "Autumn Leaves" for at least 10 minutes. I also loved the audio guide (in my opinion absolutely essential on these occasions - I loved the way they played Wagner's Tannhauser while describing the Venus picture. And the guide succeeded in making me appreciate more a picture I have always disliked - Hunt's version of the Lady of Shallot (I feel that Waterhouse's depictions are so much better, but I can see that Hunt has caught the power and energy of the moment in a way that Waterhouse fails to; I still think the painting would have been better without all the gaudy decoration, the panels with graeco-roman wrestlers etc). What I wish they had done is include more of made the artists' biographical details and especially the names of the models. I think a lot of the facination with the pre-raphs is to do with the amazing events and life stories of the artists and their circle. An unahamedly populist "Desperate Romantics" tie-in exhibition would be wonderful!WoofWoofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14142792485921452481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-65050235736325285442012-11-21T20:22:02.287+00:002012-11-21T20:22:02.287+00:00I just saw your comment regarding the exhibit at T...I just saw your comment regarding the exhibit at The Watts Gallery. I LOVE the de Morgans! Now I have to see if I can fit in a visit before I depart the U.K. joyatrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02460272074875273228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-39936049888738366712012-11-11T08:25:50.344+00:002012-11-11T08:25:50.344+00:00Glad you enjoyed it, we have been spoiled this yea...Glad you enjoyed it, we have been spoiled this year! Mind you, I'll be off to Compton to The Watts Gallery soon to see their de Morgan, followed by their Fortescue Brickdale exhibition next year, so may the spoiling continue!Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-2367046156942440032012-11-11T00:06:45.140+00:002012-11-11T00:06:45.140+00:00Thank you for this review. I just saw the exhibiti...Thank you for this review. I just saw the exhibition and agree that it would have been helpful to the exhibition's thesis to show contrasting works. Still for those of us who love Pre-Raphaelite art, it was a treat to see so many gems in a single exhibition. I was also disappointed by the offerings in the shop. I've worn out both my William Morris and my William De Morgan t-shirts and would have loved to get a replacement :). I've also just been to Birmingham and saw the Love and Death exhibition. So, I've got my fill of PBR (for a while, anyway).joyatrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02460272074875273228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-62171549017767677502012-09-22T20:32:02.470+01:002012-09-22T20:32:02.470+01:00It's well worth the journey just to see these ...It's well worth the journey just to see these pictures together, or in the case of Rienzi, at all. Who knows when the next time there will be such a back-to-basics display of the greatest hits of Pre-Raphaelitism, so this was a joy to behold on the very highest level.<br /><br />I know, shame on the Tate for not stocking my book! It's shocking! ;)Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-70565570663993868232012-09-22T20:27:09.510+01:002012-09-22T20:27:09.510+01:00I was really looking forward to your review of the...I was really looking forward to your review of the exhibition! <br />I'm basically traveling to the UK just to see it, and I trust your opinion so I wanted to know what you thought. <br />It's a true pity that Waterhouse left out but some of the paintings you mentioned will be worth the journey!<br />And thanks for telling us they're not selling your book, you saved me a lot of time (that I'll use looking for it elsewhere!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-38780529145015529202012-09-17T07:34:12.611+01:002012-09-17T07:34:12.611+01:00Yes! Yes, it definitely was more shocking to the ...Yes! Yes, it definitely was more shocking to the Victorians, but in order to appreciate that I need to see what it was shocking against, what was the norm, in order to shock me all over again. Elizabeth Prettejohn does a fantastic chapter on Legacy at the end of the catalogue and I think Waterhouse is arguably the last carrier of the Pre-Raph torch (other than Cowper, but he was unhinged) and so I think it is a pity not to include him in terms of what happened with their influence. <br /><br />Thank you for your comments!Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-77720237139541224072012-09-16T12:18:56.792+01:002012-09-16T12:18:56.792+01:00Great review Kirsty, though I think their art was ...Great review Kirsty, though I think their art was much more shocking in mid-Victorian times than it is now. And Waterhouse was more a fantasist than a real PRB.Hermeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968366076064269729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-64270907006583341352012-09-16T07:59:16.510+01:002012-09-16T07:59:16.510+01:00As I am now obsessed by the robin in Ophelia, I wa...As I am now obsessed by the robin in Ophelia, I wanted that to be on everything and that could have been a Christmas card. I know, it's an angel, it's Christmas..... I did think things were too expensive, or else there weren't enough cheap things for poor people such as I.Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-52975027893700845312012-09-16T05:06:09.859+01:002012-09-16T05:06:09.859+01:00I'm stuck in America (bummer) so I have to wai...I'm stuck in America (bummer) so I have to wait for it to come to D. C. But I had to peek at the Tate site to see what they're selling! Yeah, I want a t shirt too! But I do love the bird stamp and the glass beads are pretty (the red ones look like some I've seen in some Pre Raph works). I would love more things wit Morris prints. But my main complaint . . . <br />How is this a Christmas card??<br />http://shop.tate.org.uk/christmas-cards/rossetti-christmas-card-pack-10/invt/13845/&bklist=icat,5,shop,tatesouvenirs,currentexhibitions,preraph<br />I guess it does have an angel on it.R. A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10746563233541071722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-38734961125598186642012-09-16T00:57:32.913+01:002012-09-16T00:57:32.913+01:00Very well put. And how wonderful that the Pre-Raph...Very well put. And how wonderful that the Pre-Raphs' still make people ask questions - that even a hundred and fifty years later, it is still impossible to pigeon hole them! And yes, they should have your book there, and they probably should have Raine and Stephanie's T-shirts too. (Now that really would be avant garde!)Robert Stephen Parryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03747616730405354161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-52756574075276785652012-09-15T23:08:17.942+01:002012-09-15T23:08:17.942+01:00Thanks for that post Kirsrty I am going up from C...Thanks for that post Kirsrty I am going up from Cornwall to see my Mum and meet up with a friend to go to the exhibition, I am really excited about it. Woman's hour had apiece about the women artists included,did you hear it. All the best angelabright starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17682079332831035081noreply@blogger.com