tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post5580049509966136311..comments2024-03-25T18:27:37.374+00:00Comments on The Kissed Mouth: Reader/Writer Beware!Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-59979943526520886312013-02-22T08:17:34.174+00:002013-02-22T08:17:34.174+00:00And a break for cake and tea, before throwing the ...And a break for cake and tea, before throwing the next round of punches...Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-88602186885605312212013-02-22T07:52:21.234+00:002013-02-22T07:52:21.234+00:00I think you're right. It was almost as if she ...I think you're right. It was almost as if she was thinking of The Duchess of Cambridge as either an historical figure or a character from a book. <br /><br />A bit fisty? But with cravats, obviously.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15138938352227631564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-8813829528577322272013-02-21T13:46:14.842+00:002013-02-21T13:46:14.842+00:00I think it must be extremely difficult to speak ab...I think it must be extremely difficult to speak about living people when you are used to talking about people from the past because it is impossible to be critical (in all senses of the word) without the sensitivity. <br /><br />Mind you, it still gets a bit fisty among the Pre-Raph historians at times...Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-77927747958633974432013-02-21T13:39:06.688+00:002013-02-21T13:39:06.688+00:00I heard this on the radio, Radio Four played Ms Ma...I heard this on the radio, Radio Four played Ms Mantel actually speaking and it seemed harsh. However, one of the points she spoke about was that 'once she has got over being sick the press will describe her as radiant' and that, folks, is exactly the phrase used the next day. My view is that if I was Kate Middleton listening to that I would be hurt. They were cruel and hurtful remarks. The Duchess is a person, she is alive now and she is not a dusty old Boleyn. I appreciate the angle she was taking, that of the role of royal women but it seemed a cheap shot and she's certainly got a lot of publicity from it. <br />I'm not a royalist, for the record. I agree about the not being brutes, that's all I ask. It seemed brutish. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15138938352227631564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-39174589758361139992013-02-20T19:50:47.658+00:002013-02-20T19:50:47.658+00:00I noticed that the press used some awful pictures ...I noticed that the press used some awful pictures of HM in connection to the story, as if to emphasise how mad she was. God help me if I ever say anything that can be misconstrued...<br /><br />I shall put my boobs away to save your reputation...Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-51498233395108018522013-02-20T18:35:51.480+00:002013-02-20T18:35:51.480+00:00PS any chance you could change the background of t...PS any chance you could change the background of this blog to something less revealing?! I am always afraid when reading ita t work that people will think I'm looking at you know what...WoofWoofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14142792485921452481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-90267613342478880662013-02-20T18:14:25.721+00:002013-02-20T18:14:25.721+00:00I know what you are saying about the press not pic...I know what you are saying about the press not picking up on the whole story but I do think that Hilary Mantel would have been wiser not to say those things in connection with Kate - things which could well be construed (even by a Times/Guardian reader) as a nasty personal attack. While on the subject of nasty personal attacks, does anyone else think there's something strange about HM's face - like she's had botox?WoofWoofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14142792485921452481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-57473307743936688952013-02-20T17:00:09.101+00:002013-02-20T17:00:09.101+00:00We don't read a newspaper, and we get our news...We don't read a newspaper, and we get our news from the radio or via the BBC website. While not perfect it cuts back on commentary by people who are no smarter than me. I think I bought the Daily Mail last when they were giving away DVDs. It made me very grumpy indeed. Mind you the others are not better, they just use bigger words. I think the Mantel/Cambridge scrap shows how really all the papers are the same in essence. <br /><br />Thanks for your comments :)Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-69547564387647033892013-02-20T16:55:34.205+00:002013-02-20T16:55:34.205+00:00Thank you for giving me the other side of the Hila...Thank you for giving me the other side of the Hilary Mantel issue. The whole thing looked a little odd.<br /><br />As for the Daily Mail, when I first moved to the USA, about 8 years ago, I discovered my native land was falling apart. Pre-teens having babies, drugs and drama, hopelessness and debauched misery. And after a year of two of this I realised my home page picked up Daily Mail headlines by default. So I fixed that and Britain seems to be doing rather better.<br /><br />Rhissannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09001501916407616825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-47395424042943607462013-02-20T14:56:45.701+00:002013-02-20T14:56:45.701+00:00Sarah, yes, exactly. One of the first things you ...Sarah, yes, exactly. One of the first things you learn as a historian is to return to the source. We don't trust ourselves enough to read the original source, but seem to have enough confidence to respond with vitriol. It's a puzzler but it is easy to respond to something when it has been simplified beyond its original point.<br /><br />Having said that, always read what I have to say. I'm fascinating.<br /><br />Thanks for your comments, they were just what I would expect from the highly intellectual and well-balanced people who read my blog.Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-5228106159694828552013-02-20T14:39:02.846+00:002013-02-20T14:39:02.846+00:00Very well balanced summary.Very well balanced summary.Hermeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968366076064269729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-16214162269988070322013-02-20T14:35:49.175+00:002013-02-20T14:35:49.175+00:00thanks, nice piece.
I think the point you make a...thanks, nice piece. <br /><br />I think the point you make about writers is really important. Readers are reading differently than they used to. Its a pity and it causes problems but its not because they are lazy its because they are trying to read/engage with too much (really the opposite of lazy) So writers need to remember that. If you have something to say, say it. Then explore and substantiate it for the readers that are interested enough to stick around.<br /><br />Also, I like your point about readers more than the 'lazy' one everyone else is making. I take you to mean that rather than waste our time reading what everyone else thinks we should read close to the source and think for ourselves. That said, nice to read what you think ;)Sarah1965https://www.blogger.com/profile/06881094653302894686noreply@blogger.com