tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post371448943346514105..comments2024-03-25T18:27:37.374+00:00Comments on The Kissed Mouth: Review: Effie GrayKirsty Stonell Walkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-55274366818732213502014-10-19T21:17:58.379+01:002014-10-19T21:17:58.379+01:00I'm not enraged at all, honestly (and I'm ...I'm not enraged at all, honestly (and I'm fond of you too), but it saddens me that most people engage with the biography and not with the work. Of course, victims are easier to identify with than geniuses. But who is the victim here, really? Effie died a matriarch, mother of a large family, the wife of a rich baronet who was the President of the Royal Academy. Ruskin died mad and alone (alright, he had carers, but you know what I mean). I know who has my sympathy. All that is neither here nor there, though. The books are the important thing.simon.poehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01747299467622711958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-11437234319582886702014-10-18T20:21:14.078+01:002014-10-18T20:21:14.078+01:00The scene where little Effie drops her nighty and ...The scene where little Effie drops her nighty and Ruskin looks horrified was an obvious nod to the most prevalent rumour regarding Ruskin, they did not need to elaborate. I did like the bits where Ruskin was shown doing what he did best but he looked so damn miserable that it made me miserable too, however it was a film about her not him. Simon, not to enrage you anymore because I'm rather fond of you, but what do you make of the fact that they chose to make a film about the 'victim' not the 'genius'? That I feel is the root of why we won't stop talking about his sexual disfunctions...Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-45568046237151084412014-10-18T19:20:30.568+01:002014-10-18T19:20:30.568+01:00I thought Emma Thompson's screenplay gave a re...I thought Emma Thompson's screenplay gave a reasonably balanced view of Ruskin. The scene where he pleads the PreRaphaelites' worth in opposition to Royal Academicians who want their paintings taken down does establish him as an influential figure. There was nothing said or even implied about pubic hair in the film. Effie was portrayed as a victim of course and was so anaemic that it seemed hardly credible Millais would fall madly in love with her. In my view that was the main weakness of the film.anthony michael carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17980954144014243555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-63559052827642616822014-10-18T05:58:51.566+01:002014-10-18T05:58:51.566+01:00It can't be repeated too often that, fascinati...It can't be repeated too often that, fascinating though his personality and life-story undoubtedly are, the important thing about Ruskin is his books. Read them and stop fixating on his sanity and his sexuality, for heaven's sake.simon.poehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01747299467622711958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-4444264962615021062014-10-16T14:12:10.391+01:002014-10-16T14:12:10.391+01:00I was just posting a painting inspired by the pre ...I was just posting a painting inspired by the pre raphaelites when I saw your post. Since I am a painter and love the costumes of the time, I am sure I will have to catch the movie. PS I just posted my painting on my own blog for anyone who wants to check it out. I usually take a master work and change it up a bit, often put them with a backdrop of an amazing Oklahoma sky. This one got taken out of the cathedral and dumped in the forest to gather greens and herbs :-) http://margaretaycock.comMargaret Aycockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15272128809530791920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-68907960097217295022014-10-14T17:11:36.329+01:002014-10-14T17:11:36.329+01:00Obviously that's not reduced down to the pubi...Obviously that's not reduced down to the pubic hairs as you stated Kirsty....because there are sooooo many articles out on his biography and what went on during his life. <br />.....It is an eye catcher to read something like that and would be foolish to believe it but if that's what gets the people's attention to read up on his life, well it serves its purpose then...teehee.SBWNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17455198942034566076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-32537733200054945002014-10-14T10:06:55.795+01:002014-10-14T10:06:55.795+01:00Thanks Kirsty will check them out!Thanks Kirsty will check them out!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05380484176451091212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-91767686482241020202014-10-14T10:05:54.518+01:002014-10-14T10:05:54.518+01:00Sure it would be with the right director not obses...Sure it would be with the right director not obsessed with the pubic hair scenario as Kirsty rightfully mentioned!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05380484176451091212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-31127026770909159952014-10-14T09:49:42.998+01:002014-10-14T09:49:42.998+01:00I've done a couple of posts in the past on Rus...I've done a couple of posts in the past on Ruskin (if you use the search box at the top of the page you should be able to find them and I'll try and pop the links over on The Stunner's Boudoir).<br /><br />Thanks for your comments, Ruskin certain was a fascinating chap, like him or loathe him. It seems a shame (but a bit typical of people) that he just gets reduced down to the bloke who was scared of pubic hair.<br /><br />Thanks all for a great discussion!Kirsty Stonell Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342964877965021654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-46593763567230799312014-10-14T03:12:41.833+01:002014-10-14T03:12:41.833+01:00wow David...Thank you for the site...I saved the...wow David...Thank you for the site...I saved the PDF file to my computer to print out!! marvelous!<br />....My personal opinion is with this in his background it truly has all the making for a great film...a well filled intriguing life to say the least .SBWNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17455198942034566076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-28218225913176281962014-10-13T19:34:13.769+01:002014-10-13T19:34:13.769+01:00Ruskin film would be very interesting if they coul...Ruskin film would be very interesting if they could get all the facts right,althought the young girl fixation from 10-16 would not really cast him in the best light I fear!<br /><br />Regarding the lunacy stage as you rightly call it,found this on the web giving quite a lot of detail about his illnesses,might be of interest<br /><br />http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/brain/131/9/2520.full.pdfAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05380484176451091212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-71861357544552462062014-10-13T18:53:19.510+01:002014-10-13T18:53:19.510+01:00I agree David..very good article and there are a f...I agree David..very good article and there are a few connected to that article that were just as good too.....seems later a Producer will have to do a major movie on Ruskin's life ... there's enough to raise an eyebrow or two!<br /><br />When he was announced to have some sort of mental breakdown, do you know if he was put in hospital or mental institution for it ...just curious?<br /><br />I went into his Bio in Wikipedia and it goes on 'forever'...they really did a lot of research on him but did not find anything yet while reading of his so called "lunacy" stage in later life....thanks :-)<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_RuskinSBWNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17455198942034566076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-8691529136720057582014-10-13T18:15:42.562+01:002014-10-13T18:15:42.562+01:00No such thing as bad publicity is I believe the ol...No such thing as bad publicity is I believe the old adage to apply here! <br />Such a stellar cast with Emma,Greg(aren't they married?),Julie etc bound to get bums on seats of people who will not have a clue about the PRB etc.<br />Of course got the Turner film out later this month with Ruskin again being featured! Incidently some scenes from that film shot across the water from me in Plymouth at Kingsand depicting Margate I believe,with around 100 plus locals being used as extras,beautiful place as well for walks and sea views.<br />Saw this review the other day about Ruskin,very good I thought,in case you missed!<br /><br />http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/oct/07/john-ruskin-emma-thompson-mike-leigh-film-artAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05380484176451091212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-61637166996768581312014-10-13T11:37:43.944+01:002014-10-13T11:37:43.944+01:00It is a good film and where they have used poetic ...It is a good film and where they have used poetic licence, it is all very reasonable. It's not one of those films where you come out and say "that did not happen". Kirsty, have you already done a post representing Ruskin's point of view? WoofWoofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14142792485921452481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-53657226775947327002014-10-12T17:09:07.471+01:002014-10-12T17:09:07.471+01:00It is those messy lives that inspired each and all...It is those messy lives that inspired each and all artists artworks...to divorce their lives from their art is almost a sinSBWNYChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17455198942034566076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-74734340014848529172014-10-11T15:54:16.083+01:002014-10-11T15:54:16.083+01:00Hmm. I've been looking at the movie poster, wo...Hmm. I've been looking at the movie poster, wondering about why it has the Ophelia with Siddal as a model and uncertain whether I want to see the film. Maybe not. I'm a history student so "poetic license" is just painful for me. <br /><br />And even the theme of the film is a bit risky - the less I know about the messy private lives of the artists, the more I can usually appreciate the art. <br /><br />Its very common these days, that films look just perfect in settings, costumes etc, but are unsatisfactory story-wise. Lucilla Linhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06393060266549415655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-69521500595253407222014-10-11T12:07:08.125+01:002014-10-11T12:07:08.125+01:00This world needs more people who want to wear the ...This world needs more people who want to wear the clothes in period dramas to actually wear the clothes like in period dramas. The HouseCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07783576090040274742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1441164155286448763.post-30961758015410595532014-10-10T15:48:40.205+01:002014-10-10T15:48:40.205+01:00I've always wondered how much the patchy educa...I've always wondered how much the patchy education women received contributed to unhappy Victorian marriages, especially when the husband was something of an intellectual (and more than that in Ruskins case). Desperate Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708411387912078122noreply@blogger.com